From a conversation recorded in October 2016, Dave speaks with both John Gerretsen and his son, Mark. Both were former Councilors and Mayors for the City. After his term as Mayor, John served as the Member of the Provincial Legislature for 19 years, and Mark, after his term around the horseshoe, was elected in 2015 as the Member of the House of Commons in Ottawa. We speak with the two of them, together, about the public-service-aspect of their time in politics

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