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In this episode, we sit down with Jason MacKenzie, the husband of OPP Constable Cindy MacKenzie, who died by suicide while serving. Rather than revisiting institutional failures of the past, this conversation focuses on institutional learning and progress. Jason reflects on the personal realities of loss, parenting, and survival, while also discussing recent outreach from the OPP and why this moment feels different from years prior. This is a forward-looking conversation about accountability, prevention, and the personal price families pay when systems evolve too slowly, and the impact that meaningful change can have when they finally do.